NFL Draft: Let’s Talk 1st Round Talent and Who Produces the Most – Baylor

by DonBearlione

This year has been quite interesting from a human behavior standpoint. Alumni from other schools have literally disappeared when the discussion of Baylor comes about. Baylor, with a couple more wins, will become the winningest school in NCAA history for a single season in the four major sports, eclipsing what Texas accomplished in 2002-2003.

If you can get someone from another school to talk sports with you, they generally try to turn the conversation to how anyone can get lucky one year. Of course, when you mention that they’ve likely been at it the same 120 years or so that Baylor has and never been able to do it, the conversation quickly goes silent.

Regardless, as much as I am proud of Baylor’s top to bottom accomplishments this year, football is the bell cow. That is the foundation your entire sports program has to be built on. President Sloan and former Athletic Director Tom Stanton had no clue about this and destroyed a once proud football program in no less than a couple of years.

The 20 years prior to the Big 12 being created in 1994 (and then starting in 1996), Baylor had the 28th winningest “BCS” (if you will, since BCS didn’t exist then) football program in the nation. Put that in your pipe and smoke it all you Ann Richards conspiracy theorists. By the way, for perspective, Texas Tech had the 45th winningest program and Baylor, over more than half a century, had won 67% of the games played between Baylor and Texas Tech. However, in this age of propaganda, we all know you can’t let facts get in the way of anything. It’s all about who speaks the loudest.

All that said, one measure of a football program and it’s ability to develop and produce talent is NFL first round draft picks. Certainly this isn’t the only measure, but it’s a pretty telling one. Just wait until you see the numbers below. For those that want to argue, well, next year Baylor is going to suck because RG3 is gone, don’t realize that, apparently in the dark of night, Baylor is starting to become a talent producing machine. This is no one hit wonder. The following numbers don’t lie.

Baylor and Alabama are the only 2 schools in the nation to produce multiple 1st round draft picks in each of the last two NFL drafts.

Also, there are only 2 schools, yes all of TWO schools, in the nation that have produced more NFL 1st round draft picks than Baylor has in the Art Briles era (drafts 2009 – 2012).

Here’s the data in all it’s glory. Congratulations Baylor administration for finally realizing, in 2008, that you have to putthe money into the one program that can make or break your entire university. This investment has helped build a national brand that silences the critics. Baylor Nation should be proud:

School 2012 2011 2010 2009 Total
Alabama 4 4 2 1 11
USC 2 1 0 3 6
Baylor 2 2 0 1 5
Oklahoma State 2 0 2 1 5
Florida 0 1 3 1 5
Missouri 0 2 1 2 5
Oklahoma 0 0 4 0 4
California 0 1 2 1 4
LSU 2 1 0 1 4
Illinois 2 1 0 1 4
Tennessee 0 0 2 1 3
Rutgers 0 0 2 1 3
Iowa 1 1 1 0 3
Boise State 2 0 1 0 3
Boston College 1 1 0 1 3
North Carolina 1 1 0 1 3
Wisconsin 1 2 0 0 3
Georgia 0 1 0 2 3
Ohio State 0 1 0 2 3
Nebraska 0 1 1 0 2
Texas 0 0 1 1 2
Georgia Tech 0 0 2 0 2
Florida State 0 1 1 0 2
Stanford 2 0 0 0 2
Texas A&M 1 1 0 0 2
South Carolina 2 0 0 0 2
Mississippi State 1 1 0 0 2
Notre Dame 2 0 0 0 2
Auburn 0 2 0 0 2
Colorado 0 2 0 0 2
Mississippi 0 0 0 2 2
Clemson 0 0 1 0 1
Fresno St 0 0 1 0 1
Michigan 0 0 1 0 1
South Florida 0 0 1 0 1
Idaho 0 0 1 0 1
Penn State 0 0 1 1 2
TCU 0 0 1 0 1
Memphis 1 0 0 0 1
West Virginia 1 0 0 0 1
Syracuse 1 0 0 0 1
Virginia Tech 1 0 0 0 1
Washington 0 1 0 0 1
Purdue 0 1 0 0 1
Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 1
Temple 0 1 0 0 1
Wake Forest 0 0 0 1 1
Maryland 0 0 0 1 1
Virginia 0 0 0 1 1
Texas Tech 0 0 0 1 1
Northern Illinois 0 0 0 1 1
Kstate 0 0 0 1 1
Connecticut 0 0 0 1 1
Louisville 0 0 0 1 1

In case you missed some of these details:

Oklahoma – 4 (all in 1 year, 2010)
Texas – 2 (all those top 5 recruiting classes produced 2 1st rounders)
Texas A&M – 2 (all those top 25 recruiting classes produced the exact same record as Baylor since Briles arrived and only 2 1st rounders)
Texas Tech – 1 (we always knew they had quite a bit of smoke and mirrors going on out there, but still had a solid program given the talent they could get to come out to Lubbock. The hot seat for Tubbs is white hot this season)
TCU – 1 (Definitely a solid program where you must respect what they accomplished. However, they haven’t had a single Strength of Schedule < 80 in the past decade. Will be interesting to see what the next decade looks like for them)
KState – 1

Baylor is not going to be a flash in the pan and, not\w that we’ve kicked the door in, the power shift in the Big 12 is going to be interesting to watch over the next many years. Coaches can no longer negative recruit against Baylor saying tings like, you’ll never be on national tv, you’ll never be a 1st round pick or you’ll never win a Heisman by going to Baylor.

In fact, you may be more likely to do that at Baylor than by going to 95% of the other schools you can choose to take your talents.

Finally, the SEC has produced 32 1st rounders the last 4 years while the Big 12 has produced 24. If the SEC were willing to play the Big 12 a little more, there’s another myth that could be brought a little closer to reality regarding the strength, top to bottom, of the two best football conferences in America.

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April 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

How S-W-E-E-P It Is! Aggies Go 0 for 3 against Baylor in Their Best Sport!

by admin

The Beaver is getting really full Baylor Nation. And getting full on the likes of Western Louisiana A&M (aka the Aggies) and Longhorns is the best kind of getting full.

We’ve heard for a while “Just wait till we play you in baseball. We’re a baseball school now. You’re still Baylor.” I must applaud their ability to get almost as many fans to their stadium for their #2 team in the country as Baylor did in Waco. They are only 3 times the size of Baylor and the 3rd largest degree mill in the country and couldn’t manage to equal the Baylor attendance.

I also applaud their delusional dedication to the fact that, after Heisman’s, National Titles, constant converage on BSPN and stock piling conference titles, Baylor still sucks.

We heard all this smack talk and then this weekend happened. It was their last desperate attempt to own Baylor at something. To somehow prove they were better. Then the Baylor neutron bomb landed on College Station and the Aggies in Waco and it’s been stunned silence. Twitter has been on mute as I haven’t heard from an Aggie in several days now. It is glorious.

You gotta be careful what you say when going up against the Baylor juggernaut, because there’s this little thing called eternal perma scoreboard and only one response that works:

Or this:

These are appropriate as well:

Let’s recap, shall we:

Baylor was ranked as high as #3 in some polls this week. Aggie was as high as #2. With LSU and Kentucky losing at least 1 game this week, Baylor may be ranked as high as #1 after SWEEPING the Aggies for the final Battle of the Brazos.

A&M, a school who’s alumni repeatedly say they don’t care about Baylor and that we’re not a rival, set a record for attendance in their game against Baylor on Friday. Interesting.

More interesting was the record for attendance that Baylor set on Saturday, which had more attendance than the game held Friday at the school with 50,000 students. I guess attendance smack won’t soothe the Aggie sadness tonight after yet another Baylor sweep this year.

A&M (or Western Lousiana State, as I’ve been calling them after they ran out on their history and traditional rivals because they couldn’t compete with Texas), has now gone 1-7 against Baylor in the 4 major sports. Throw in men’s and women’s tennis, a sport Baylor has dominated nationally for more than a decade and A&M went 1-9 against Baylor this year.

Records fell in this series. Baylor extends their record for all time wins in a row to start a conference slate to 18-0. The previous record was held by Texas at 7-0. This 18-0 record may never fall in the history of humanity. Well, not at least until Baylor wins again. There will never be another team do this ever. It’s almost statistically impossible.

Baylor also now owns the longest conference win streak ever at 18, breaking Nebraska’s record of 17.

A&M was picked to win the conference in baseball. (and football…and basketball…do you see a trend here Baylor Nation?). They do dominate the pre-season polls year in and year out and they never deliver. They now fall to 9-6 on the conference season and slip way into 3rd place with OU and OSU hot on their heels. How will they respond to this demoralizing loss to their hated non-rival? We’ll just have to wait and see as the Year of the Bear just keeps on trucking.

Congratulations Baylor. It is great for baseball to be back. A sport we dominated in the Big 12 for more than a decade and then took a 5 year break. We have a stranglehold on yet another conference title if we simply take care of business.

Due to finals, Baylor will not play another conference game for about 17 days.

Oh, and don’t forget, Baylor has now won 24 games in a row. The all time record is 34. That’s a nearly impossible task given that anyone can be anyone in baseball at any given time, and yet, an Aggie can’t seem to beat a Bear!

Also, Baylor swept A&M for the 3rd time in the Big 12, compared to A&M sweeping Baylor once. We also won 8 out of the 15 series.

Finally, Baylor passed ’08-’09 UCONN in wins for baseball, basketball and football in a single season with 115. They have a chance to tie ’02-’03 Texas with 116 on Tuesday.

Sic em!

Oh, and Land Thieves, this video needs to be updated:

We also win at rap videos. Here’s the aggie entry (ag swag???? lmao), See for yourself, you can’t make this stuff up:

Here’s one from Baylor:

Oh and don’t forget, WE ARE B-U! Baylor we are and Baylor we will always be!


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April 22nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm